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https://www.yahoo.com/news/japan-nkorea-fires-possible-missile-could-land-off-153358285.html

 

PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) -- North Korea on Friday test-fired its second intercontinental ballistic missile, which flew longer and higher than the first according to its wary neighbors, leading analysts to conclude that a wide swath of the U.S., including Los Angeles and Chicago, is now within range of Pyongyang's weapons.

Japanese government spokesman Yoshihide Suga said the missile, launched late Friday night, flew for about 45 minutes — about five minutes longer than the ICBM North Korea test-fired on July 4. The missile was launched on very high trajectory, which limited the distance it traveled, and landed west of Japan's island of Hokkaido.

"We assess that this missile was an intercontinental ballistic missile, as had been expected," Pentagon spokesman Navy Capt. Jeff Davis said in Washington.

Analysts had estimated that the North's first ICBM could have reached Alaska, and said Friday that the latest missile appeared to extend that range significantly.

David Wright, a physicist and co-director of the global security program at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said in Washington that if reports of the missile's maximum altitude and flight time are correct, it would have a theoretical range of at least 10,400 kilometers (about 6,500 miles). That means it could have reached Los Angeles, Denver and Chicago, depending on variables such as the size and weight of the warhead that would be carried atop such a missile in an actual attack.

Bruce Klingner, a Korean and Japanese affairs specialist at the Heritage Foundation think tank in Washington, said, "It now appears that a significant portion of the continental United States is within range" of North Korean missiles. Klingner recently met with North Korean officials to discuss denuclearization, the think tank said.

Washington and its allies have watched with growing concern as Pyongyang has made significant progress toward its goal of having all of the U.S. within range of its missiles to counter what it labels as U.S. aggression. There are other hurdles, including building nuclear warheads to fit on those missiles and ensuring reliability. But many analysts have been surprised by how quickly leader Kim Jong Un has developed North Korea's nuclear and missile programs despite several rounds of U.N. Security Council sanctions that have squeezed the impoverished country's economy.

President Donald Trump has said he will not allow North Korea to obtain an ICBM that can deliver a nuclear warhead. But this week, the Defense Intelligence Agency reportedly concluded that the North will have a reliable ICBM capable of carrying a nuclear weapon as early as next year, in an assessment that trimmed two years from the agency's earlier estimate.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called the launch a "serious and real threat" to the country's security.

Suga, the Japanese spokesman, said Japan has lodged a strong protest with North Korea. "North Korea's repeated provocative acts absolutely cannot be accepted," he said.

North Korea's latest intercontinental ballistic missile test has been condemned by

The French Foreign Ministry condemned the launch and called for "strong and additional sanctions" by the United Nations and European Union. "Only maximal diplomatic pressure might bring North Korea to the negotiating table," the ministry said in a statement.

A spokesman for Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Friday that Dunford met at the Pentagon with the commander of U.S. forces in the Pacific, Adm. Harry Harris, to discuss U.S. military options in light of North Korea's missile test.

The spokesman, Navy Capt. Greg Hicks, said Dunford and Harris placed a phone call to Dunford's South Korean counterpart, Gen. Lee Sun Jin. Dunford and Harris "expressed the ironclad commitment to the U.S.-Republic of Korea alliance," Hicks said, referring to the U.S. defense treaty that obliges the U.S. to defend South Korea.

Prime Minister Abe said Japan would cooperate closely with the U.S., South Korea and other nations to step up pressure on North Korea to halt its missile programs.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said the missile reached an estimated height of 3,700 kilometers (2,300 miles) before landing at sea about 1,000 kilometers (625 miles) away. It appeared to be more advanced than the ICBM North Korea previously launched, it said.

The "Hwasong 14" ICBM test-fired earlier this month was also launched at a very steep angle, a technique called lofting, and reached a height of more than 2,500 kilometers (1,550 miles) before splashing down in the ocean 930 kilometers (580 miles) away. Analysts said that missile could be capable of reaching most of Alaska or possibly Hawaii if fired in an attacking trajectory.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said the missile was launched from North Korea's northern Jagang province near the border with China. President Moon Jae-in presided over an emergency meeting of the National Security Council, which called for an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council and stronger sanctions on North Korea.

There was no immediate confirmation of the launch by North Korea. The day's broadcast on state-run television had already ended when the news broke at around midnight Pyongyang time.

July 27 is a major national holiday in North Korea called Victory in the Fatherland Liberation War Day, marking the day when the armistice was signed ending the 1950-53 Korean War. That armistice is yet to be replaced with a peace treaty, leaving the Korean Peninsula technically in a state of war.

North Korea generally waits hours or sometimes a day or more before announcing launches, often with a raft of photos in the ruling party newspaper or on the television news. Kim Jong Un is usually shown at the site to observe and supervise major launches.

Late night launches are rare. North Korea usually conducts its missile and underground nuclear tests in the morning. It's likely the North launched the missile at night and from the remote province of Jagang to demonstrate its operational versatility. To have a real deterrent, it's important for North Korea to prove it can launch whenever and wherever it chooses, making it harder for foreign military observers trying to detect their activities ahead of time.

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We are reaping the reward of Obama's "Strategic Patience" (ie: do nothing) policy.

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don't worry Australian's politicians say Australia will be hit; i suspect this will apply in every country in Asia.

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1 hour ago, Banjo said:

don't worry Australian's politicians say Australia will be hit; i suspect this will apply in every country in Asia.

 

That's possible.

 

Good thing you have the United States to protect your homeland.        You and your buddy Paul Keating might want to cease being ingrates as you two continue to bask under a blanket of cover of what the US has pre-positioned on your soil.         

 

If the shit hits the fan, no need to say thank you, just have the Aaaaa-ha moment that you were in error (BIGLY) about America's 45th President as he, the MAGA Team, and the worlds to date finest military protects your asses.

 

 

FT suggest you move this thread to the POL SEC.    It was destine to go there from post #2 and post #3 and then.... post #4   :lol:

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Us will only come to Australia's defence not because of an obligation but it only in an US interest 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Banjo said:

Us will only come to Australia's defence not because of an obligation but it only in an US interest 

 

 

 

 

and........ you just learnt after X amount of years being in this world what foreign policy is all about..........?       Sloweth to comprehend, huh......., Banjo.   

 

You along with your ungrateful mate Paul Keating can consider yourselves lucky that 2017 US AUS interest are aligned where the rubber meets the payment on these such situations.

 

In the 1940's your country's interest was rigidly aligned with United States interests.       Soooooo.......... on a positive note, count your blessings that you're not speaking and reading in Japanese daily.

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1 hour ago, Banjo said:

Us will only come to Australia's defence not because of an obligation but it only in an US interest 

 

 

 

Was the U.S. "obligated" to intervene in Guadalcanal to prevent Australia from becoming Japanese territory?

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never was the intention of japan to take over Australia, its supply lines were too stretched, japan intention was take over the small countries that are between Australia and the US effectively isolating Australia from the US thus prohibiting the US from using northern Australis as a springboard back into Asia.

the US intervened in Guadalcanal and was a lead in the battle of Coral Sea to stop Japan implementing their plan

 

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11 hours ago, Banjo said:

never was the intention of japan to take over Australia, 

 

You're delusional.  The Japs were already at Port Morsby and prepping for invasion.
I suggest you correct your erroneous "history" by studying the USS Enterprise
and the sacrifices of Americans over months of fighting in Guadalcanal.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Darwin

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11 hours ago, Banjo said:

never was the intention of japan to take over Australia, its supply lines were too stretched, japan intention was take over the small countries that are between Australia and the US effectively isolating Australia from the US thus prohibiting the US from using northern Australis as a springboard back into Asia.

the US intervened in Guadalcanal and was a lead in the battle of Coral Sea to stop Japan implementing their plan

 

If you did not have Uncle Sam to save your asses, it would of been Japan intention after all other Asian countries they wanted were under submission.     Yep, Japan could of took over small pockets of your soil bit by bit, taking over all at once they would of not attempted.   

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10 hours ago, beameup said:

You're delusional.  The Japs were already at Port Morsby and prepping for invasion.
I suggest you correct your erroneous "history" by studying the USS Enterprise
and the sacrifices of Americans over months of fighting in Guadalcanal.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Darwin

get your facts correct, Japan never got to Port Moresby their ground offense was stopped on the Kokoka trail in the Owen Stanley Ranges by Australian troops and their sea attack never happened with the battle of Coral Sea.  they wanted Poet Moresby as a base not to advance into Australia, but to go into the small pacific countries they has their eyes on. Port Moresby had a full length runway.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/05/31/1022569832145.html

 

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2 hours ago, Banjo said:

get your facts correct, Japan never got to Port Moresby their ground offense was stopped on the Kokoka trail in the Owen Stanley Ranges by Australian troops and their sea attack never happened with the battle of Coral Sea.  they wanted Poet Moresby as a base not to advance into Australia, but to go into the small pacific countries they has their eyes on. Port Moresby had a full length runway.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/05/31/1022569832145.html

 

Some idiot that is a threat to multiple country's and you guys want to argue about shit that went on 60 years ago.............this is whats wrong with the world today,nobody wants to concentrate on the real problems.No wonder the worlds such a fucked up place.

Hey but don't let me get you guys sidetracked..............carry on.........after all someone on the internet is wrong...cant let that slide,the world might end.

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On 30/07/2017 at 9:14 PM, beameup said:

You're delusional.  The Japs were already at Port Morsby and prepping for invasion.
I suggest you correct your erroneous "history" by studying the USS Enterprise
and the sacrifices of Americans over months of fighting in Guadalcanal.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Darwin

A bit of history, it was 75 years today that the battle of Guadalcanal started. 

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